Brief notes of some of the discussion from the meeting on 26th November.

The deputy chairman of the group was announced to be Dave Kant of QMUL, who will take over as chairman in two years time.

There was a discussion on the possibility of negotiating HEP-wide licences. The astronomy community have negotiated community wide licences for two products (Matlab and IDE) with significant savings.

There was a discussion on the 'Form G' with a feeling that some of the questions are out-of-date - certainly as far as it being useful to estimate required system manager effort. It was stated that the grants committee does now accept bids for system management effort.

Gareth Smith.